Subject	There seems to be a big misunderstanding about intercooling.
Posted by	Ash's Z on September 30, 2006 at 4:43 PM
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In Reply To	but for not a whole lot more, I can upgrade. posted by jmw23712 on September 30, 2006 at 04:28 PM
Message	They are "rating" these intercoolers at 500HP, and while I have also posed ratings for my intercoolers at specific power levels, this is hardly the metric to compare intercoolers by. You wont make 500HP with stock turbos so it would appear that you aren't going to outflow their intercoolers given they are "rated" at 500HP. The problem with this sort of logic is that although you wont "outflow" them per-se, you aren't going to see the same performance benefit as an intercooler with a larger core. A larger core flows better, cools better, and has less pressure drop as compared to a smaller core. Because of this, there really is no single horsepower level maximum that you can assign to an intercooler and the properties of an intercooler should be viewed as flowrate, pressure drop, and efficiency. Even though you wouldn't "need" a set of Stillen or MASSIVES, they are going to perform notably better than the ebay intercoolers even with stock turbos. I just dont see the reason to skimp on a few hundred dollars for an item that possesses so much potential for performance. [ ashspecz.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - Slobo7x 12:29:34 09/30/06 Re: Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - tjlazer 12:43:48 09/30/06 I'm in. (n/m) - jmw23712 12:52:02 09/30/06 "What did the hand say to the face?...... SLLAAAP" - PiotrC70 13:51:03 09/30/06 I dunno its not like - LJZTT 14:37:46 09/30/06 If they have their own company name and website, - PiotrC70 15:09:25 09/30/06 Re: If they have their own company name and website, - Slobo7x 15:40:03 09/30/06 so why start now? ;o) (n/m) - PiotrC70 17:27:39 09/30/06 true but like any other flea market, ebay's appeal is the - LJZTT 15:43:11 09/30/06 But it's an intercooler, it isn't that complicated. - jmw23712 16:21:13 09/30/06 But if you want to save money - ZXRider(SoCal) 16:25:47 09/30/06 but for not a whole lot more, I can upgrade. - jmw23712 16:28:22 09/30/06 There seems to be a big misunderstanding about intercooling. - Ash's Z 16:43:04 09/30/06 any chance you are gonna have a sport smic's group buy then? - jmw23712 16:52:58 09/30/06 The Sport-SMICs are the least expensive in their class. - Ash's Z 17:04:49 09/30/06 Specs from the ebay add within. Comments? - Barry'z (NJ) 21:23:11 09/30/06 Hah! They are certainly bloating thier numbers >>>> - Ash's Z 21:38:56 09/30/06 Thanks. (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 21:43:06 09/30/06 Nice find! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 23:28:41 09/30/06 Re: Hah! They are certainly bloating thier numbers >>>> - Gho32 08:23:26 10/01/06 Re: Re: Hah! They are certainly bloating thier numbers >>>> - Slobo7x 10:17:49 10/01/06 Sure isn't much bigger than stock though. - Ash's Z 12:55:31 09/30/06 2nd - ZLover4Life 13:03:14 09/30/06 For the price, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a set - Ash's Z 13:11:48 09/30/06 Re: For the price, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a set - Slobo7x 18:12:36 09/30/06 no they don't - moxie 13:10:54 09/30/06 It is an inexpensive solution that would be better than - Ash's Z 13:14:45 09/30/06 100% agreed (n/m) - moxie 13:28:59 09/30/06 Re: It is an inexpensive solution that would be better than - Slobo7x 18:10:51 09/30/06 No problem - I can appreciate your excitement and your - Ash's Z 00:31:33 10/01/06 I like the massives, they are massive - zboost(tx) 13:48:44 09/30/06 That they are. :) - Ash's Z 13:53:14 09/30/06 Thanks, - zboost(tx) 13:54:42 09/30/06 A little preview: - Ash's Z 14:15:09 09/30/06 :( (n/m) - Die V10 14:22:18 09/30/06 I take it these are a mockup for R&D or are your - PiotrC70 14:28:08 09/30/06 The pics are a set of ICs/Ducts that are shipping on Monday - Ash's Z 14:32:36 09/30/06 what about the shape? - mousersix 19:43:04 09/30/06 You are joking, right? - Ash's Z 21:30:43 09/30/06 I think he's saying...we want the fog lap ducts integrated! - maglito 03:05:37 10/01/06 how about your 2.5'' IC piping for the massives - ARA300ZX 14:21:00 09/30/06 I'm working hard at it. It will be a few more weeks still. (n/m) - Ash's Z 14:22:06 09/30/06 closer to the greddys than the stockers though - LJZTT 15:53:15 09/30/06 The ebay intercoolers are no substitute for the other - Ash's Z 16:15:34 09/30/06 Agreed. (n/m) - SeedyROM 16:51:21 09/30/06 Re: The ebay intercoolers are no substitute for the other - Slobo7x 21:58:21 09/30/06 Sport-SMICs are $800/pr and they flow 618CFM@1psi PD. - Ash's Z 00:38:41 10/01/06 nice post - moxie 12:55:50 09/30/06 Aren't they suppose to be 7x7x3.5 ? (n/m) - SuparexTT 13:01:07 09/30/06 They are what you see, I measured them.. Ebay - Slobo7x 10:12:01 10/01/06 Nice, thanks for the info (n/m) - TTFairladyZ 13:10:21 09/30/06 Do we get to pick which 48 states? (n/m) - Zluster(Abudan) 13:32:10 09/30/06 my washer pump broke. - nemo1080 15:05:20 09/30/06 Just curious.. did you paint the IC silver? Looks painted. (n/m) - Biz 16:05:56 09/30/06 Re: Just curious.. did you paint the IC silver? Looks painted. - Slobo7x 18:07:00 09/30/06 thanks for taking the time to write this up. (n/m) - Jonez 17:24:20 09/30/06 Re: Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - movenu 20:06:19 09/30/06 Butt Dyno ;~) (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 21:07:33 09/30/06 Hardly. >>>>>>> - Ash's Z 21:41:57 09/30/06 In Slobo's post he states 10-25hp increase. - Barry'z (NJ) 21:57:07 09/30/06 25-30 with what turbos? (n/m) - Spddracer 22:50:18 09/30/06 It was 25-30HP using PE1420's, which are quite efficient - Ash's Z 00:16:34 10/01/06 The hardly statement was in reference to the butt-dyno - Ash's Z 00:21:34 10/01/06 Re: The hardly statement was in reference to the butt-dyno - Barry'z (NJ) 07:56:05 10/01/06 Re: Ebay Intercoolers Review (picture heavy) - Gho32 07:47:36 10/01/06 Probably not all that far off. That is just one variable - Ash's Z 13:08:47 10/01/06
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